Reasons To Disagree
This concept sounds good, but in actual fact we must think of the consequences. should the drinking age be increased, general anger and annoyance among the youth around the age of 18 will lead to rebeliance over this decision. They will drink alcohol anyway using the "you cant stop me" concept. and what do you tell the present 18-19 year olds who have been drinking for quite some time? Raising the drinking age won't solve anything! I disagree with this proposal only because the conservatives in Parliament can't be bothered with incorporating healthy substance use education into the health education curriculum. No instead of doing this, they like to point the finger - it's the fault of the youth. It's not like they're coherently sober after some time at Bellamy's anyway so who are they say anything? I think laws should be fair and specific, and address the actual problem. If the problem is 18 year olds drinking, then preventing them from drinking by raising the drinking age to 20.
However, if the problem in fact is 15 year olds drinking, then raising the drinking age from 18 to 20 is going the wrong way about it.
It is more important that the drinking age of 18 be enforced - i.e. people should not serve those under 18.
The problem (stemming from previous drinking laws - e.g. the six o'clock swill) is in binge drinking, not drinking per se. These problems have nothing to with age but with NZ culture. It would only incourage more oyunger people to break the law. raising the drinking age to 20 is not going to stop ages ranging from 12 to 19 from drinking we have always been under age drinking and will always be under age drinking. Isnt it better to keep 18-20 year olds in the pubs than in halls out in the country where anything could happen?? where there is bouncers and bartenders etc to keep an eye on any fights etc that happen on a regular basis. I am 17, 18 on Thursday 26 October. I work full time and have always been sensible with alchole eg never took advantage of it.Being 17 I have missed out in going for for a drink with my co-workers for the past 7 months I have been working.Rasing the drinking age again is unfair and I DISGREE to it!! As noted above, the age increase will not stop them drinking. I think that increasing the driving age is more important. As already pointed out, the problem is not with the drinking it is the binge-drinking culture that we have grown up in. Being a student I am willing to accept that students are probably the main concern.The reason that many 18 year olds binge-drink is often not the fact that they are legally allowed to drink in bars,but more the fact that they are in their first year of uni(which is generally very cruisy),and often have more freedom due to being away from home. If the drinking age was raised,this would mean that people would simply have their 'binging' year when they were 20, which could be detremental as 3rd year courses are much harder and require a greater workload. No matter what age the drinking age is when people reach that age they are going to celebrate by drinking(probably bingeing) unless they have already experimented with alcohol while they were underage,in which case raising the age has not had any effect on underage drinking anyway. I strongly disagree because no matter what the age, people under the age of "18" or "20" are going to have access to alcohol. Parents can buy it, a friends parent can buy it, a sibling, aunty, uncle, cousin or older frined. Anyone can buy it and can offer it to underage drinkers. Also... If 18 year olds can vote, marry, drive, become an MP, and go to war to fight for the country, they deserve to be able to have a cold beer at the end of the day. It will also add to the street violence as you will now have the 18 and 19yr olds drinking on the streets, car parks and at parties instead of safe and controlled environments like pubs. NO MATTER WHAT, underage drinkers can access alcohol. And teens will become more rebelious if the age is raised, more laws will be broken, and underage drinking statistics will increase. You'll have 12-19years old drinking illegally.
Think about it... raisng the age will not solve the problem of 15yr old drinkers. It will simply increase alcohol problems in New Zealand It wont solve anything. Look to the real problem and stop doing a knee jerk like you do with everything. Deal with the problem properly! Keep the age as it is The drinking age should be scrapped. Drinking problems are at a minimum where alcohol is accepted as just another beverage and children grow up with it having a routine place in life. Making it something special just serves to glorify it. Raising the age will do little to cause a change in culture surrounding alcohol. The "drinking" age in NZ is in fact a purchasing age, so will have little effect on who is drinking, but just where they are drinking. Raising the age has the potential only to foce 18 and 19 year olds from relatively safe drinking environments like clubs and bars, to unsafer, uncontrolled environments of private parties. Good question. I think that eighteen year olds are not mature enough to drink, but they are old enough legally to join the army. So, if they are old enough to die, then they are old enough to drink. I think the age should be raised to twenty, and the army joining age should also be raised to twenty. Old enough to go to war, old enough to vote, old enough to drink Raising the drinking age will only increase the desire of young people to obtain alcohol as it is illegal and therefore has an element of risk. Less emphasis is needed on who can and can't drink alcohol and more emphasis should be placed on sensible drinking. We should drink to appreciate the alcoholic beverage (esp. when it comes to wine), rather than drinking to get drunk - people of all ages drink to get drunk, not just 18 and 19 year olds. If we want kids to be more responsible with alcohol a cultural change is required, and adults are the ones that need to provide an example for sensible drinking. Leave it how it is, most of the old fags complain stop being so pc and get over it? i think there should be no drinking age I disagree because if you keep on raising the drinking age more teens are gonna break the law and do it anyways because the rules are stead of changeing every year and its getting worser. 18 year olds are responsible enough to deal with it. you are officially grown at the age 18 years old anyways. So shy not? even at 30 to 40 years of age people act with the maturity of a 18 year old. leave it at 18 and pray thet grow out of it. If there is a problem with youth drinking, lowering the age is the answer - at least for getting into bars/night clubs. Get teenagers out of house parties and into a supervised venue. There bar staff can refuse to sell any alcohol to someone who's had too much. Europe is much more liberal in this way and don't have the same problems we do. The knee jerk reaction of "stupid young people" isn't the answer - it only creates resentment. From a young age you are expected to pay adult fares for many things including air line tickets movie tickets, and also at a mer age of 16 be allowed to bring a child into the world.. but you cant drink!!! how does this match? drinkers should be held responsible for their actions Don't be stupid, people don't start drinking at 18. I started drinking a good while after my friends did and I was 15. obviously the issue is beyond the law. Raising the drinking age won't solve New Zealand's binge drinking culture. You can do it when your 16 legally so why not have a drink when your 18 and do it also Changing the drinking age will do nothing. Young adults will feel even more compelled to drink. You need to find a way to stop young adults from drinking before we're all dead from liver diseases. It is unfair for those who are already 18. it will not stop those who are 18 or 19 from drinking it will just cause anger. i firmly believe the drinking age should stay at 18. like the ads on TV say. its how we as new zealanders drink not what we drink. Instead of totally cutting young adults off from being able to buy alcohol which if the government did would cause a major backlash focus on alcohol consumption. Being a teenager myself, i believe we need to send a message to youth that it is not cool to binge drink! CHANGING IT OR NOT.
IT WONT STOP ANYONE FROM DRINKING ?!!! people under the current drinking age can already get alchohol now, its just a bit harder then for them people over the drinking age. if the age is raised it will just cause more underage drinking and alot of anger towards the government. there is no way to stop teenagers drinking.... live with it. most kids start drinknig younger anyway I know I did. The most important thing is teaching/educating them how to drink properly thats probably what I missed out on. Its like table manners. Better to learn how to control it rather than through a funnel. Its meant to socialise isnt it. The great part about turning 18 is being able to drink.
This is not relevent but prehaps a better question would be why is it illegal to buy porn when your 16 yet your alloud to have sex what is worse? Will not change shit! It will only cause an uproar for the younger ones whom you are trying to stop, and make them rebel in a way to try even harder to get fake IDs and what not. The only thig your going to achieve by doing this is pissing A LOT of 18/19 year olds off!!!! I believe Raising the drinking ages from 18 to 20 is pointless. The reason why binge drinking is so common in this age group is because the youth of today simply can not wait till their 18th birthday. Being surounded by such a large drinking culture creates excitment for any teenager for the day they get to be a part of it. When this day comes, though all the excitment and paience they have endured over the years they find it hard to control and take this freedom over the top. no they are already rasing so meny laws its silly and theres no point everyones guna get it any way The Drinking Law should not be raised to 20 Years. Firstly it is not going to stop underage drinkers from drinking instead the number of underage drinkers will rise, people who are already 18 and 19 it will suddenly be illegal for them to purchase alcohol or buy a drink from the pub. Raising the law will just encourage private parties with alcohol supplied by peoples over the age of 20, and from those parties is where the most harm and deaths occur as there is no law to control what can happen at these parties. The government should not want to encourage these parties and instead focus on creating laws that create penalties for hosts of private parties or whoever is supplying minors with alcohol on a private basis for endangering minors. Instead of just raising the drinking law to 20 and then hoping that everything will work out, perhaps the government should borrow some ideas from say Germany, they have teen curfews, where if you are 16 you should be at home or at a safe place like your friends house at a certain time, if you are roaming the streets after that time by law you could get reprimanded or the government could encourage activites for minors such as the opening up of nightclubs for only peoples under the age of 18(particulary in rural areas), the encouragement of non-age Restricted concerts. Just raising the drinking age to 20 will create higher age restrictions on nightclubs and concerts, and lure even more minors into private parties where the law cannot at the moment close them down because of the danger of underage drinking. This is much more dangerous then an 18 year old going to a pub and having a few drinks. If they become intoxicated it is the pub that supplied them with the alcohol that is liable. No one is liable at these parties with underage drinking. Please will the Government focus on the true problem areas of this underage drinking in New Zealand. Raising the age will not do anything anymore. As previously stated, raising the drinking age to 20 is not going to solve the problems faced with our current drinking culture. It is not going to stop the 14, 15, 16 and 17 year olds from drinking, as everyone knows someone who will buy it for them; it will not reduce the rate of consumption; and I believe it would simply create more underage drinkers (the 18 and 19 year olds). What the government needs to do is focus on changing our drinking culture through education and other tactics - the answer is not to simply raise the drinking age. As clearly stated, changing it from 18 to 20 will achieve nothing. People will think that problems will lessen in bars but it's not just the younger people causing the trouble. And on top of that, the younger people will rebel even more with more binge drinking. It seems everyone want to take a blind eye and blame it on the youth when it's people of all ages who are causing the trouble. What's the point in taking it out on those already 18-19? It's not fair on them at all If anything, it's the way we've been brought up with alcohol. You have countries like Germany where the drinking age is 14, or France where youth are brought up to drink sensibly... why can't we be the same? There are other ways to help NZ's drinking culture. There should be information out there about drinking and the pros/cons of it and the media around alcohol should be limited. Being young can't be to blame for the way we drink. Look at what youth have been brought around. Change that. Hahaha okay so this is all very well, but
1) What is going to happen to those who are already 18-19 and already go to town and stuff. We suddenly become illegal to do what weve already been doing? i think if your going to raise the drinking age you should allow 18-19 year olds who are already old enough to still be able to go and phase out the old law.
2) Like everyone else is saying, you cant narrow the drinking problems to one age group. Just because they are the younger ones. Is that supposed to mean that they are to blame for everything because they are young? DOUBT IT. thats discrimination and is ILLEGAL all on its own john key you piece of shit. bring back helen. There is no benefit only for those who are decieved to think that it will stop once its raised, of course the 18/19 will be angry and will be more rebellious than ever before I strongly disagree. There is no point in raising the drinking age to 20, im under the age of 18 and i dont have any 18/19 year olds that buy alcohol for me but people between the ages 20/25. Changing the drinking age will not help, harder pushments for people that buy 4 under ages and for under ages that drink will acheive more than raising the drinking age. 18 is only 5 weeks away for me and like all other 18/19 year olds in New Zealand there will still no stoping the drinking. most 16+ year olds are out of home and in flats, having partys so if the govermant does change the law it wil stay the same, under ages getting drunk and in trouble they will still find a way to drink no matter what the drinking age is and i also think that if the age goes up than it will be grousely unfaif and should be viewed as a breach of rights to those who are already 18 or 19 as they are not the problem with todays drinking culture. My opinion is tyhat it is the actions of a few that are spoiling it for the rest of us, come on nz goverment get it right for once!! raising the drinking age to 20 is not going to stop ages ranging from 12 to 19 from drinking we have always been under age drinking and will always be under age drinking. Having survived the mine field that is "teenage drinking", I think that the drinking age should remain the same. Although that opinion might seem strange to some, I believe that,without the guidance of my parents life skills and a bit of luck, I may not be around today. I agree that under age drinking is a problem in our society but it has been for a very long time. I believe the issue that needs to be addressed is the lack of morals in society today. It seems to me that society as a whole and to a greater extent the youth of today seem to disregard the consequences of there actions. When you combine this with alcohol and a lack of experience, it can lead to dire consequences. Education, respect and honour could be keys to reducing the ills that alcohol have on our teens. Hopefully by following my own advice, my son will survive the roller coaster that is "life". Being and having sisters in this age group, I think that this would be a bad idea as it makes a whole group suffer for what a few idiots in that group have done. In America, states that adopted raising the drinking age (voluntarily) found the effects of doing so to last for only a few weeks and then going back to usual. I think raising it would prove costly in having to advertise etc about the change in law, without showing any profits or lasting results from the change. As an under-age musician I found it almost impossible to get a gig because I was unable to get into bars. Changing the drinking age will not only create anger amongst the youth of NZ but also prevent Musicians like myself from being able to perform at most venues. It is important to make sure kids are well educated on how to drink properly like i was when i was alot younger
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Reasons To Agree
I agree with those who have said that the current 18 and 19 year olds are disadvantaged by this change in law and we all know and agree with this. But i have to say that they are not looking at the bigger picture. The impact will dramatically change for the better in the long run. Its true that for this to work out, there needs to be a few sacrifices here and there but as everyone will see in the future, its all for the better. The issue right now is not that we are worried about the 18 year olds, but its more about the younger society we have to focus on. At the moment at clubs, pubs and other social environments it is 18 at which the legal is to enter the place. But the problem is that the younger have a too much of an easy access to alcohol while being under-aged. It is quite possible for a 15 year old to get away with being an 18 year old. Sure right now there are ID checks everywhere and we try to legalise this as much as possible but as we all know, there are an enormouse amount of underaged getting access. The diference from an 15 year old and a 20 year old are quite prominent. Therefore it is only logical for the age to be raised. Yes i agree that this is not a complete cure for the issue but this will deffinitly reduce the amonut of underaged drinking for sure. There will always be the few kids who will experiment drinks and quite possibly be a frequent drinker. But we have to except that its just human nature, though we should not look past it but penalise it.
It is vissible that the current drinking age has a problem. Therefore something needs to be done. I beleive there are not many mature 18year olds that no there limit, it also causes alot of voilence in teen familys With freedom of choice comes responsibility for the choices you make. I find it difficult, looking back at my own life, to believe that at 18 I truly understand what that means. Not too stressed about them drinking in controlled environments but off licences should only be able to sell to over 20's to reduce the 'passdown' effect where the person purchasing the drink is buying for a younger person. split drinking age and bottle shop buyinging age 18/20 I agree on the basis I think the age should be raised to 25, but putting it back up to 20 is a start. Our national pass time is drunkenness and lowering the legal drinking age has enabled even more drunk teens out on the streets to bash to death and permanently maim the general public. When I was younger I found the drinking age an inconvenience and an annoying law, but now that I am a bit older I agree that sensible use of alcohol should be promoted and that younger people can get it too easily. Drinking age SHOULD be 20 to 21. (I actually think the same thing for smoking.) That way people will HOPEFULLY drink and smoke as responsible adults. Ok great votting set up in principal but,
What are the 3 voting choices between Agree and Disagree all about?
Why ruin a good idea with total nonsense?
Raising the drinking age won't eliminate the binge culture prevelent today; to do that we need to have a more in depth look at why drinking is something we think we need to do. It is a start, however, and if raising age does nothing more than make as ask the more difficult questions then it is worth it. Certainly there will always be those who try to drink even before they reach the legal age for drinking. Surely by raising the legal age there is more liklihood that some youths will refrain from drinking outside the law and those that flout the law will potentially be cautioned by caring others, deterring the habit. Admittedly we may have some rebellion from those that are about to turn 18, but in the generations to come, the law would have entrenched in society as a 'norm'. We are certainly seeing troubling times for our youth and alcohol has for many years been a temptation that many have taken advantage of. Often this has happened before they had the opportunity to establish themselves in the community on their own. I believe that raising the age for drinking would create a boundary that forms good habits for our future generations. I agree on the basis that the alcohol purchasing age (we don't actually have a drinking age) would be progressively raised - those who are already allowed to buy would be allowed to, but over 2 years, we would move back up to 20. raising the drinking age would reduce access for younger people to alcohol. There need to be more youth activities, entertainment venues. I believe that boredom is the biggest factor in NZ's drinking - there simply isn't any other way once business closes down at night - the only places that remain open are bars petrol stations and takeaway joints. I am a 20 year old student, and I agree that the legal purchasing age of alcohol (not the 'drinking age' - there is no such thing in New Zealand) should be raised back to 20. Binge drinking is a major issue in New Zealand, and keeping silent about it is not going to change anything. My main reason for agreeing is because of the access younger teenagers have to alcohol. As a 14 or 15 year-old, you are going to have more in common with an 18 year-old (especially if they are in high school) and therefore have greater access to alcohol. I'm not saying all 18 year olds buy alcohol for their younger mates, but it is more likely than a 20 year old (who is removed from the high school scene)buying alcohol for young teenagers. Raising the purchasing age of alcohol is only the first step however - getting rid of advertising that encourages excessive drinking, stricter regulations in the liquor industry, police given more resources to cope with binge drinkers, a public campaign with the message that binge drinking is unacceptable and education in schools on alcohol and possible long term side-effects from over use. A lot to do, but by raising the purchasing age to 20 and then enforcing the legislation with the above methods, a lot of harm will be avoided to younger people. It miay not fix the problems we have got in this country with youth getting out of hand but it sure wont hurt!!!its a good start! well in my opinion raising it higher wont do a thing execpt cause more teens to get in trouble for underage drinking, kids can get alcohol from other people easily, like last week me and my friends got my older cuzin to go out and buy us alcohol. i got sooooooo drunk and so did all my friends, and then the cops caame and fined me $200 for having possesion of alcohol, it sucks man,and if they raise the age this kinga thing will kepp on going. down with driking age!!! the young children drinking 12 - 14 year olds have much easier access to alcohol when the age is set at 18 than they do at 20. At 20 their older brother or sister is away at uni or working and notliving with them. Theres nobody drinking age at the school they go to. It also decreases the element of peer pressure. We need to think about the youth and try to break the habit.
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